Hallo,
dem kann ich mich persönlich eh nicht anschliessen. Ich brauchte dieses -für mich überflüssige- Medium nicht, es ist absolut nicht vertrauenserweckend!!
Markus

Im Forum von blu-ray.com (oder war es highdefdigest?) wurde das auch schon vor geraumer Zeit diskutiert, dass der Hersteller nur gebrannte DVDs verschickt.

Gegen Audio-Only Blu-ray Discs ist ja grundsätzlich nichts einzuwenden. Immerhin lässt sich so unkomprimierte 7.1-Surround-Musik als PCM-Stream auf eine Scheibe bringen.

Von: info@surroundrecords.com [mailto:info@surroundrecords.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 18:28
An: Robert Kuhlmann
Betreff: Re: Are you kidding your customers???


Hi Robert,

We have distribute these titles word wide for more then 2 years.
Yes, This is Audio Only AVCHD/Blu-ray hybrid disc produced to deliver Blu-ray spec Audio codecs like DTS-HD MA (7.1 channels 24bit 96k) to Blu-ray players.
My projects is well known within Blu-ray community, I am also an Industry Insider on Blu-ray.com, but will be glad to assist you if want to return or exchange the disc for any reasons.

All the Best,
Alexander J
Surround Records LLC
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Hello Alexander,

Thank you for your Reply. I’m very interested in Audio-Only Blu-ray Discs, because they offer the opportunity for uncompressed (or at least lossless compressed) surround music. So I was very excited to here from this kind of media to be released.

But what you do, is delivering a medium that by far is no “hybrid”, but an ordinary DVD-R in AVCHD-Format. I don’t think it is allowed to publish non-Blu-ray Media under the label “Blu-ray Disc”. And even if it would be, it still is not acceptable. For example my Blu-ray Player (Pioneer BDP-LX71) is not specified to play AVCHD-Discs. That’s why I wanted to buy an Audio-Only Blu-ray Disc, nothing else! No “hybrid”, no medium with “Blu-ray spec Audio codecs”.

I’ve written to Amazon.de, that they are not allowed to sell your discs as “Blu-ray Discs” anymore. They are working on this “problem” and, I guess, will react respectively.

What’s the problem in putting the HD-Soundtracks on a real Blu-ray Disc? You could even deliver music without compression (PCM). 25GByte space available should be enough for that. There would be no need to pay DTS-fees anymore and this could compensate the additional costs of a BD-production.

Yours faithfully

Robert Kuhlmann

Trust me my friend,
Standard AVHD spec is not allow use of high definition audio codecs. Your player only identifying the disc as AVCHD for playback but it is actually processing Blu-ray format content.
And product description on Amazon is very descriptive and highlighted in capitals.
Where is no over audio only format for high definition music and I have thousands of supporters
who want to listen music in high definition with Blu-ray players.
However I can't wait for development of profile 3.0 for Audio.
In your case I would try titles from 2L label whey don't have this famous content like our titles but produced on standard BD media and outstanding sound quality.

All the Best.
Alexander Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Hello Alexander,

I see your points, but you have to realize, that the german trade-law doesn’t allow misleading statements about the properties of a product. This is to ensure equal opportunities amongst competitors on the market.

If you can’t wait for an Audio-Only Blu-ra profile (3.0 as you’ve stated) to be developed, you may even now be able to publish Blu-ray discs with exceptional Sound, by just combining a very simple Video (that, e.g. shows nothing) with your soundtracks and this would perfectly fit n a “standard” Blu-ray disc.

And again, if you can’t wait for a specific standard to be evolved, rolled out or developed, you’re not allowed and shouldn’t call your products “Blu-ray Discs”.

I don’t know, what Amazon-description you refer to, but on Amazon.de the description didn’t say anything about “AVCHD”, DVD-R or something comparable.

I respect the ambition and quality of your contents, but don’t accept the way you propagate and publish them.

Finally, what does prvent you from doing the same, 2L does?

Best regards

Robert Kuhlmann

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